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Entrevista a Gepe sobre \\\"Marinero capit\\u00e1n\\\" https:\\\/\"}<\/script><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Canci\u00f3n: Gepe &#8211; Marinero capit\u00e1n<\/p>\n<p>Pa\u00eds: Chile<\/p>\n<p>G\u00e9nero: Pop<\/p>\n<p>Temas: Las luchas socioecon\u00f3micas en Chile<\/p>\n<hr \/><p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/wp-login.php?action=register\"><strong>Become a member<\/strong><\/a> of Zambombazo today to gain access to this member-exclusive teaching activity plus thousands of other Spanish classroom activities on a wide variety of topics!<\/p><p>Already a member? <a href=\"https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/login\/\"><strong>Log in<\/strong><\/a> to access this activity.<\/em><\/p><hr \/>\n\n<p>Despu\u00e9s de escuchar la canci\u00f3n, escucha lo que dice Gepe en nuestra entrevista realizada durante el <a href=\"https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/lamc-latin-alternative-music-conference\/\">LAMC<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h4>Entrevista a Gepe sobre &#8220;Marinero capit\u00e1n&#8221;<\/h4>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<div data-fullscreen=\"disabled\" data-mode=\"normal\" data-oembed=\"1\" data-provider=\"youtube\" data-reset-after-played id=\"arve-youtube-h6qt1sl8mlc\" style=\"max-width:1100px;\" class=\"arve\">\n<div class=\"arve-inner\">\n<div style=\"aspect-ratio:500\/281\" class=\"arve-embed arve-embed--has-aspect-ratio\">\n<div class=\"arve-ar\" style=\"padding-top:56.200000%\"><\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t<iframe allow=\"accelerometer &apos;none&apos;;autoplay &apos;none&apos;;bluetooth &apos;none&apos;;browsing-topics &apos;none&apos;;camera &apos;none&apos;;clipboard-read &apos;none&apos;;clipboard-write;display-capture &apos;none&apos;;encrypted-media &apos;none&apos;;gamepad &apos;none&apos;;geolocation &apos;none&apos;;gyroscope &apos;none&apos;;hid &apos;none&apos;;identity-credentials-get &apos;none&apos;;idle-detection &apos;none&apos;;keyboard-map &apos;none&apos;;local-fonts;magnetometer &apos;none&apos;;microphone &apos;none&apos;;midi &apos;none&apos;;otp-credentials &apos;none&apos;;payment &apos;none&apos;;picture-in-picture;publickey-credentials-create &apos;none&apos;;publickey-credentials-get &apos;none&apos;;screen-wake-lock &apos;none&apos;;serial &apos;none&apos;;summarizer &apos;none&apos;;sync-xhr;usb &apos;none&apos;;web-share;window-management &apos;none&apos;;xr-spatial-tracking &apos;none&apos;;\" allowfullscreen=\"\" class=\"arve-iframe fitvidsignore\" credentialless data-arve=\"arve-youtube-h6qt1sl8mlc\" data-lenis-prevent=\"\" data-src-no-ap=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/H6qT1Sl8Mlc?feature=oembed&#038;wmode=opaque&amp;iv_load_policy=3&amp;modestbranding=1&amp;rel=0&amp;autohide=1&amp;playsinline=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;enablejsapi=1\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"618.2\" loading=\"lazy\" name=\"\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-presentation allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/H6qT1Sl8Mlc?feature=oembed&#038;wmode=opaque&#038;iv_load_policy=3&#038;modestbranding=1&#038;rel=0&#038;autohide=1&#038;playsinline=0&#038;autoplay=0&#038;enablejsapi=1\" title=\"Gepe - Marinero capit\u00e1n - Entrevista\" width=\"1100\"><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\t<script type=\"application\/ld+json\">{\"@context\":\"http:\\\/\\\/schema.org\\\/\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/zachary-jones.com\\\/zambombazo\\\/gepe-marinero-capitan-no-hay-que-ser-ni-uno-ni-otro\\\/#arve-youtube-h6qt1sl8mlc\",\"type\":\"VideoObject\",\"embedURL\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\\\/embed\\\/H6qT1Sl8Mlc?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&iv_load_policy=3&modestbranding=1&rel=0&autohide=1&playsinline=0&autoplay=0&enablejsapi=1\",\"name\":\"Gepe - Marinero capit\\u00e1n - Entrevista\",\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/i.ytimg.com\\\/vi\\\/H6qT1Sl8Mlc\\\/hqdefault.jpg\",\"uploadDate\":\"2026-04-19T17:59:24-04:00\",\"author\":\"Zambombazo\",\"description\":\"Canci\\u00f3n: Gepe - Marinero capit\\u00e1n Pa\\u00eds: Chile G\\u00e9nero: Pop Temas: Las luchas socioecon\\u00f3micas en Chile Despu\\u00e9s de escuchar la canci\\u00f3n, escucha lo que dice Gepe en nuestra entrevista realizada durante el LAMC. 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Lo que pasa es que, es una cosa muy puntual, lo que pasa es que en el metro de Santiago, en el subway en Santiago, el precio del boleto subi\u00f3 mucho, por lo tanto, como subi\u00f3 tanto el boleto, la gente empez\u00f3 a pasar por abajo, \u00bfcach\u00e1i? Por abajo del torniquete. Entonces cuando, entonces yo digo, &#8220;Si nos pasan por arriba&#8221;, es decir, si nos suben el precio, nosotros pasamos por abajo.\n<\/ul>\n<div id=\"attachment_91433\" style=\"width: 730px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-91433\" src=\"https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/si_ellos_nos_pasan_por_arriba_nosotros_pasamos_por_abajo_catalinabu_720_2.jpg\" alt=\"&quot;Si ellos nos pasan por arriba, nosotros pasamos por abajo&quot;, dibujo de catalinabu\" width=\"720\" height=\"720\" class=\"size-full wp-image-91433\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/si_ellos_nos_pasan_por_arriba_nosotros_pasamos_por_abajo_catalinabu_720_2.jpg 720w, https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/si_ellos_nos_pasan_por_arriba_nosotros_pasamos_por_abajo_catalinabu_720_2-290x290.jpg 290w, https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/si_ellos_nos_pasan_por_arriba_nosotros_pasamos_por_abajo_catalinabu_720_2-245x245.jpg 245w, https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/si_ellos_nos_pasan_por_arriba_nosotros_pasamos_por_abajo_catalinabu_720_2-160x160.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-91433\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8220;Si ellos nos pasan por arriba, nosotros pasamos por abajo&#8221;, dibujo de <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/sghio_i4PO\/\">catalinabu<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p><em>Eso tiene aun m\u00e1s sentido que&#8230; nos encanta el juego de palabras, pero ponerlo en ese contexto nos da mucho m\u00e1s. Hablamos un poquito de eso. Le\u00edmos una palabra interesante. Si nos explicara un poquito m\u00e1s este t\u00e9rmino, de la \u00e9tica &#8220;latifundista&#8221;. \u00bfA qu\u00e9 se refiere? Yo s\u00e9 que tiene que ver con grandes&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nS\u00ed, lo que pasa es que Chile es un pa\u00eds que por lo menos hace unos&#8230; ser\u00e1 unos cincuenta a\u00f1os atr\u00e1s era, b\u00e1sicamente, o sea, digamos, el poder econ\u00f3mico est\u00e1 en manos de gente que ten\u00eda territorio, campo, digamos, qu\u00e9 s\u00e9 yo, en el norte, en el sur de Chile. Entonces, los latifundios, los feudos, eran muy comunes, pero ya desaparecieron, pero lo que a\u00fan queda es la relaci\u00f3n entre &#8220;marinero&#8221; y &#8220;capit\u00e1n&#8221; tambi\u00e9n, \u00bfcach\u00e1i? Como la persona que es due\u00f1a de la tierra y que maneja a los peones. Y esa actitud del jefe para con su empleado sigue siendo la misma, como muy desp\u00f3tica, \u00bfcach\u00e1i? Entonces, a eso me refiero. Eso todav\u00eda en Chile est\u00e1&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Chile es muy conservador, probablemente uno de los pa\u00edses m\u00e1s conservadores de este lado del mundo, probablemente el m\u00e1s. Es muy cat\u00f3lico, es muy latifundista, muy conservador de valores, muy de que la gente que tiene mucho dinero manda. Y es una problem\u00e1tica s\u00faper espec\u00edfica y ahora est\u00e1 muy actual porque la gente, digamos, la masa, el pueblo se est\u00e1 manifestando de una manera s\u00faper fuerte. Y est\u00e1 s\u00faper entretenido en Chile, la verdad, s\u00faper especial lo que est\u00e1 pasando.\n<\/ul>\n<h4>Serie de entrevistas: Gepe<\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/gepe-la-cultura-andina-tenemos-mucho-en-comun\/\">La cultura andina, &#8216;Tenemos mucho en com\u00fan&#8217;<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/gepe-tres-musas-pizarro-loyola-parra\/\">&#8216;Tres musas&#8217;, Pizarro, Loyola, Parra<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/gepe-estilo-libre-lo-que-prima-son-las-canciones\/\">Estilo libre, &#8216;Lo que prima son las canciones&#8217;<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h5>Unidades did\u00e1cticas relacionadas<\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/social-class\/\">La clase social<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/social-injustice-protests\/\">Las protestas<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a 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