{"id":42402,"date":"2013-08-07T22:39:20","date_gmt":"2013-08-08T02:39:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/?p=42402"},"modified":"2025-02-28T16:01:05","modified_gmt":"2025-02-28T21:01:05","slug":"lamc-2013-mariachi-flor-de-toloache-entrevista","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/lamc-2013-mariachi-flor-de-toloache-entrevista\/","title":{"rendered":"LAMC 2013: Mariachi Flor de Toloache: Entrevista"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"video-container\">\n<div data-fullscreen=\"disabled\" data-mode=\"normal\" data-oembed=\"1\" data-provider=\"youtube\" data-reset-after-played id=\"arve-youtube-zjcjnfwslck\" style=\"max-width:1100px;\" class=\"arve\">\n<div class=\"arve-inner\">\n<div style=\"aspect-ratio:500\/281\" class=\"arve-embed arve-embed--has-aspect-ratio\">\n<div class=\"arve-ar\" style=\"padding-top:56.200000%\"><\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t<iframe allow=\"accelerometer &apos;none&apos;;autoplay &apos;none&apos;;bluetooth &apos;none&apos;;browsing-topics &apos;none&apos;;camera &apos;none&apos;;clipboard-read &apos;none&apos;;clipboard-write;display-capture &apos;none&apos;;encrypted-media &apos;none&apos;;gamepad &apos;none&apos;;geolocation &apos;none&apos;;gyroscope &apos;none&apos;;hid &apos;none&apos;;identity-credentials-get &apos;none&apos;;idle-detection &apos;none&apos;;keyboard-map &apos;none&apos;;local-fonts;magnetometer &apos;none&apos;;microphone &apos;none&apos;;midi &apos;none&apos;;otp-credentials &apos;none&apos;;payment &apos;none&apos;;picture-in-picture;publickey-credentials-create &apos;none&apos;;publickey-credentials-get &apos;none&apos;;screen-wake-lock &apos;none&apos;;serial &apos;none&apos;;summarizer &apos;none&apos;;sync-xhr;usb &apos;none&apos;;web-share;window-management &apos;none&apos;;xr-spatial-tracking &apos;none&apos;;\" allowfullscreen=\"\" class=\"arve-iframe fitvidsignore\" credentialless data-arve=\"arve-youtube-zjcjnfwslck\" data-lenis-prevent=\"\" data-src-no-ap=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/ZjCjNFWSlCk?feature=oembed&#038;wmode=opaque&amp;iv_load_policy=3&amp;modestbranding=1&amp;rel=0&amp;autohide=1&amp;playsinline=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;enablejsapi=1\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"618.2\" loading=\"lazy\" name=\"\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-presentation allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/ZjCjNFWSlCk?feature=oembed&#038;wmode=opaque&#038;iv_load_policy=3&#038;modestbranding=1&#038;rel=0&#038;autohide=1&#038;playsinline=0&#038;autoplay=0&#038;enablejsapi=1\" title=\"LAMC 2013: Mariachi Flor de Toloache: Entrevista\" width=\"1100\"><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\t<script type=\"application\/ld+json\">{\"@context\":\"http:\\\/\\\/schema.org\\\/\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/zachary-jones.com\\\/zambombazo\\\/lamc-2013-mariachi-flor-de-toloache-entrevista\\\/#arve-youtube-zjcjnfwslck\",\"type\":\"VideoObject\",\"embedURL\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\\\/embed\\\/ZjCjNFWSlCk?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&iv_load_policy=3&modestbranding=1&rel=0&autohide=1&playsinline=0&autoplay=0&enablejsapi=1\",\"name\":\"LAMC 2013: Mariachi Flor de Toloache: Entrevista\",\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/i.ytimg.com\\\/vi\\\/ZjCjNFWSlCk\\\/hqdefault.jpg\",\"uploadDate\":\"2013-08-09T16:54:19Z\",\"author\":\"Zambombazo\",\"description\":\"Para ver m\\u00e1s entrevistas visita: \\n\\nEntrevista (LAMC 2013): Mariachi Flor de Toloache\\n\\nM\\u00fasica de cierre: San Pedro El Cortez - Ratas\"}<\/script><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Entrevista a Mireya Ramos y Shae Fiol de Mariachi Flor de Toloache durante el <a href=\"https:\/\/zachary-jones.com\/zambombazo\/tag\/latin-alternative-music-conference\/\">LAMC 2013<\/a> sobre su primer disco, el machismo y por qu\u00e9 decidieron formar el primer grupo femenino de mariachi en Nueva York.<\/p>\n<h4>Entrevista a Mariachi Flor de Toloache<\/h4>\n<p><em>Su disco, tratamos de encontrar canciones en l\u00ednea, pero encontramos muy pocas. \u00bfCu\u00e1l sale su disco?<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nEs que no sali\u00f3 todav\u00eda.\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Es como under. We&#8217;re getting the jump. Es un adelanto. \u00bfPuede hablar un poco de lo que podemos esperar del disco?<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nEstamos ahorita grabando, bueno, acabando el disco, porque ya casi est\u00e1 terminado. Y es casi todo m\u00fasica original y una que otra clase de m\u00fasica tradicional, de mariachi. Pero todos los arreglos son originales. En el \u00e1lbum tambi\u00e9n incorporamos los elementos de otros g\u00e9neros de m\u00fasica como salsa, cumbia, pop, soul\u2026 but we only use the traditional mariachi instruments. So it&#8217;s all acoustic.\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Hace unos meses vimos una exposici\u00f3n sobre el mariachi aqu\u00ed en Nueva York que se llama Serenata para Nueva York. Y la fot\u00f3grafa dijo que en M\u00e9xico hab\u00eda intentos de hacer grupos de mariachi femenino, pero que no funcionaba all\u00e1 por alguna raz\u00f3n u otra. Entonces, nos preguntamos, \u00bfpor qu\u00e9 creen ustedes que ha funcionado aqu\u00ed en Nueva York? \u00bfQu\u00e9 diferencia hay?<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nEn la cultura mexicana todav\u00eda est\u00e1 muy vivo el machismo, entonces eso se ve en la m\u00fasica, en el arte, se ve en todos los aspectos de la vida social. Entonces, para la mujer en M\u00e9xico, ser parte de un mariachi femenino, pues, est\u00e1 el elemento de que si se va a casar o si queda embarazada. Hay varias razones, \u00bfno? Entonces, tambi\u00e9n el mariachi per se tiene un concepto en M\u00e9xico un poquito distinto al concepto que tiene aqu\u00ed. Entonces, tambi\u00e9n eso tiene que ver c\u00f3mo afecta a la mujer sea parte del mariachi. Aqu\u00ed, pues, mucho m\u00e1s abierto, m\u00e1s&#8230; es aceptado que sea m\u00fasico que sea lo que sea.\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>\u00bfHan experimentado comentarios machistas hasta ac\u00e1?<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n\u00a1Oh, definitivamente!\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>\u00bfC\u00f3mo reaccionan?<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nBueno, lo primero que dicen es que no somos mexicanas, la primera cr\u00edtica que nos hacen. Pero tambi\u00e9n &#8220;\u00bfPor qu\u00e9 usan pantalones? \u00bfPor qu\u00e9 no usan las faldas? Se ve m\u00e1s bonito&#8221;. \u00bfY por qu\u00e9 se ve m\u00e1s bonito? Ese tipo de comentario o tambi\u00e9n &#8220;Ustedes no tocan m\u00fasica tradicional&#8221;, que no es verdad porque s\u00ed tocamos m\u00fasica tradicional. Lo que pasa es que ahora ya como llevamos tiempo juntas tocando, queremos hacer nuestras composiciones originales. Queremos romper un poco con ese esquema de que mariachi es mariachi y no puede ser m\u00e1s nada.\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Como que hay un set de canciones y no se hacen m\u00e1s. Solo se puede tocar esas. Tenemos muchas ganas de escuchar las canciones originales de ustedes. Mencionaron sobre su pa\u00eds de origen, que no es de M\u00e9xico. Entonces, \u00bfqu\u00e9 es lo que les atrae en particular a este g\u00e9nero, especialmente ya que son de varios pa\u00edses donde se escucha eso tan fuerte?<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nMi pap\u00e1 es mexicano y \u00e9l era mariachi entonces yo me cri\u00e9 escuchando mariachi. Pero yo me cri\u00e9 en Puerto Rico entonces jam\u00e1s pens\u00e9 que iba a ser mariachi pero cuando vine a Nueva York empec\u00e9 a tocar mariachi. Empec\u00e9 a aprender mucho m\u00e1s a fondo la cultura mexicana a trav\u00e9s de la m\u00fasica y me di cuenta que no hab\u00eda muchas mujeres mariachis en Nueva York y no hab\u00eda un grupo totalmente femenino y por eso decid\u00ed formar el grupo.<\/p>\n<p>Y mi visi\u00f3n para el grupo era hacer m\u00fasica original, que es lo que estamos logrando ahora. Pero, fue muy dif\u00edcil al principio, pues ya sabes c\u00f3mo es. Poder buscar todas las muchachas para el grupo y que est\u00e1n interesadas, entonces cogi\u00f3 dos o tres a\u00f1os poder trabajar eso. Ella y yo est\u00e1bamos tocando, tocando y tocando, pero hasta que ya cogi\u00f3 un poquito de popularidad por su elemento de originalidad y de que \u00e9ramos todas mujeres y que no hay tantas mujeres en la escena de la m\u00fasica. Entonces, eso atrae a la mujer ser parte del grupo. Entonces, ya fuimos conociendo a las muchachas. Se fueron haciendo parte del grupo. Y ya as\u00ed somos el grupo que somos ahora.\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Y es el primer grupo, \u00bfno? Eso es lo que hemos le\u00eddo. Eso es incre\u00edble. Felicidades. Es excelente que hayan hecho algo \u00fanico as\u00ed.<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nLo que quer\u00eda mencionar. Maybe you want to say why you like mariachi.<\/p>\n<p>I had never thought that I would play mariachi. I had already been playing with Mireya, because we knew each other five years before she formed the group. And I had never really listened to the genre at all. But, first of all, I love Mireya and she&#8217;s amazing and so I was like, &#8220;Sure, Mireya, whatever you like&#8221;, you know. And I was ready to start working as a musician. She was gigging a lot with other mariachis. So you could see ahead in the future it would pan out, that we would be working eventually.<\/p>\n<p>And also I forget to mention this before, but I love the vihuela! It\u2019s such a cool instrument. It\u2019s beautiful and I fell in love with that and I fell in love with the style of singing. So, it grew up on me a lot.\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>\u00bfQu\u00e9 otros grupos de mariachi admiran ustedes?<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n\u00bfDe aqu\u00ed o en general?\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>En general.<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nBueno, Mariachi Vargas, porque los arreglos de los Mariachi Vargas siempre son incre\u00edbles. Son unos de los mariachis m\u00e1s conocidos mundialmente. Yo dir\u00eda tambi\u00e9n Mariachi Divas, porque la conexi\u00f3n de mariachi femenino de Los \u00c1ngeles. Adem\u00e1s de esos grupos, as\u00ed como banda no&#8230; yo m\u00e1s me enfoco como en escuchar cantantes que tienen un mariachi acompa\u00f1ando. Te puedo decir m\u00e1s de cantantes, pero no tanto de una banda de mariachi. Mariachi Cobre tambi\u00e9n. The singers are primarily what I was drawn to.\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Y la segunda parte de &#8220;Toloache&#8221;. Cuando hicimos investigaci\u00f3n sobre esta palabra, vimos que es una planta que tiene alta toxicidad y que en el pasado se ha usado en hechicer\u00eda. Entonces, \u00bfpor qu\u00e9 esta parte de su nombre?<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nParte de la hechicer\u00eda est\u00e1 ligada al nombre es porque la flor se hac\u00eda en un t\u00e9 y en M\u00e9xico se dice: &#8220;Ah\u2026 \u00bfle diste toloache? Porque se enamor\u00f3 de ti&#8221;.\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Ah, es como un love potion.<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nEs un love potion.\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>That makes a lot of sense.<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nPero s\u00ed, tiene un historial, que si lo tomas, es una droga. Y los aztecas lo usaban tambi\u00e9n para alucinar.\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>You have a theme song?<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nWe have a theme song. And even though it&#8217;s not all the way finished yet or not even recorded yet, we&#8217;re going to perform it tomorrow. I love that song. It&#8217;s so cute. It&#8217;s so beautiful. Mireya wrote the lyrics. It talks about the flower. It&#8217;s very feminine and it&#8217;s very pretty melodically. That&#8217;s one of my favorites. And I&#8217;m always like, &#8220;Finish it!&#8221; I&#8217;ve been bugging her for like six months because I secretly love that song, even though it&#8217;s not finished yet.\n<\/ul>\n<h4>Son de Toloache<\/h4>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<div data-fullscreen=\"disabled\" data-mode=\"normal\" data-oembed=\"1\" data-provider=\"youtube\" data-reset-after-played id=\"arve-youtube-4_ql6wekt9k\" style=\"max-width:1100px;\" class=\"arve\">\n<div class=\"arve-inner\">\n<div style=\"aspect-ratio:4\/3\" class=\"arve-embed arve-embed--has-aspect-ratio\">\n<div class=\"arve-ar\" style=\"padding-top:75.000000%\"><\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t<iframe allow=\"accelerometer &apos;none&apos;;autoplay &apos;none&apos;;bluetooth &apos;none&apos;;browsing-topics &apos;none&apos;;camera &apos;none&apos;;clipboard-read &apos;none&apos;;clipboard-write;display-capture &apos;none&apos;;encrypted-media &apos;none&apos;;gamepad &apos;none&apos;;geolocation &apos;none&apos;;gyroscope &apos;none&apos;;hid &apos;none&apos;;identity-credentials-get &apos;none&apos;;idle-detection &apos;none&apos;;keyboard-map &apos;none&apos;;local-fonts;magnetometer &apos;none&apos;;microphone &apos;none&apos;;midi &apos;none&apos;;otp-credentials &apos;none&apos;;payment &apos;none&apos;;picture-in-picture;publickey-credentials-create &apos;none&apos;;publickey-credentials-get &apos;none&apos;;screen-wake-lock &apos;none&apos;;serial &apos;none&apos;;summarizer &apos;none&apos;;sync-xhr;usb &apos;none&apos;;web-share;window-management &apos;none&apos;;xr-spatial-tracking &apos;none&apos;;\" allowfullscreen=\"\" class=\"arve-iframe fitvidsignore\" credentialless data-arve=\"arve-youtube-4_ql6wekt9k\" data-lenis-prevent=\"\" data-src-no-ap=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/4_Ql6weKT9k?feature=oembed&#038;wmode=opaque&amp;iv_load_policy=3&amp;modestbranding=1&amp;rel=0&amp;autohide=1&amp;playsinline=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;enablejsapi=1\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"825\" loading=\"lazy\" name=\"\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-presentation allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/4_Ql6weKT9k?feature=oembed&#038;wmode=opaque&#038;iv_load_policy=3&#038;modestbranding=1&#038;rel=0&#038;autohide=1&#038;playsinline=0&#038;autoplay=0&#038;enablejsapi=1\" title=\"Son De Toloache\" width=\"1100\"><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\t<script type=\"application\/ld+json\">{\"@context\":\"http:\\\/\\\/schema.org\\\/\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/zachary-jones.com\\\/zambombazo\\\/lamc-2013-mariachi-flor-de-toloache-entrevista\\\/#arve-youtube-4_ql6wekt9k\",\"type\":\"VideoObject\",\"embedURL\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\\\/embed\\\/4_Ql6weKT9k?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&iv_load_policy=3&modestbranding=1&rel=0&autohide=1&playsinline=0&autoplay=0&enablejsapi=1\",\"name\":\"Son De Toloache\",\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/i.ytimg.com\\\/vi\\\/4_Ql6weKT9k\\\/hqdefault.jpg\",\"uploadDate\":\"2014-12-23T15:26:00Z\",\"author\":\"Flor de Toloache - Topic\",\"description\":\"Provided to YouTube by TuneCore\\n\\nSon De Toloache \\u00b7 Mariachi Flor De Toloache\\n\\nMariachi Flor De Toloache\\n\\n\\u2117 2014 Flor De Toloache LLC\\n\\nReleased on: 2014-12-19\\n\\nAuto-generated by YouTube.\"}<\/script><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul>\nMy strongest song is &#8220;Cucurrucuc\u00fa paloma&#8221;, which is a traditional song. It&#8217;s not original, but it&#8217;s touched a lot of people every time I sing it.<\/p>\n<p>I just got chills just thinking about it. Her version is amazing.\n<\/ul>\n<h4>Cucurrucuc\u00fa paloma<\/h4>\n<div class=\"video-container\">\n<div data-fullscreen=\"disabled\" data-mode=\"normal\" data-oembed=\"1\" data-provider=\"youtube\" data-reset-after-played id=\"arve-youtube-hms8zsmczei\" style=\"max-width:1100px;\" class=\"arve\">\n<div class=\"arve-inner\">\n<div style=\"aspect-ratio:4\/3\" class=\"arve-embed arve-embed--has-aspect-ratio\">\n<div class=\"arve-ar\" style=\"padding-top:75.000000%\"><\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t<iframe allow=\"accelerometer &apos;none&apos;;autoplay &apos;none&apos;;bluetooth &apos;none&apos;;browsing-topics &apos;none&apos;;camera &apos;none&apos;;clipboard-read &apos;none&apos;;clipboard-write;display-capture &apos;none&apos;;encrypted-media &apos;none&apos;;gamepad &apos;none&apos;;geolocation &apos;none&apos;;gyroscope &apos;none&apos;;hid &apos;none&apos;;identity-credentials-get &apos;none&apos;;idle-detection &apos;none&apos;;keyboard-map &apos;none&apos;;local-fonts;magnetometer &apos;none&apos;;microphone &apos;none&apos;;midi &apos;none&apos;;otp-credentials &apos;none&apos;;payment &apos;none&apos;;picture-in-picture;publickey-credentials-create &apos;none&apos;;publickey-credentials-get &apos;none&apos;;screen-wake-lock &apos;none&apos;;serial &apos;none&apos;;summarizer &apos;none&apos;;sync-xhr;usb &apos;none&apos;;web-share;window-management &apos;none&apos;;xr-spatial-tracking &apos;none&apos;;\" allowfullscreen=\"\" class=\"arve-iframe fitvidsignore\" credentialless data-arve=\"arve-youtube-hms8zsmczei\" data-lenis-prevent=\"\" data-src-no-ap=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/HMs8zsMCzeI?feature=oembed&#038;wmode=opaque&amp;iv_load_policy=3&amp;modestbranding=1&amp;rel=0&amp;autohide=1&amp;playsinline=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;enablejsapi=1\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"825\" loading=\"lazy\" name=\"\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-presentation allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/HMs8zsMCzeI?feature=oembed&#038;wmode=opaque&#038;iv_load_policy=3&#038;modestbranding=1&#038;rel=0&#038;autohide=1&#038;playsinline=0&#038;autoplay=0&#038;enablejsapi=1\" title=\"Cucurrucuc\u00fa Paloma\" width=\"1100\"><\/iframe><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\t<script type=\"application\/ld+json\">{\"@context\":\"http:\\\/\\\/schema.org\\\/\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/zachary-jones.com\\\/zambombazo\\\/lamc-2013-mariachi-flor-de-toloache-entrevista\\\/#arve-youtube-hms8zsmczei\",\"type\":\"VideoObject\",\"embedURL\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\\\/embed\\\/HMs8zsMCzeI?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&iv_load_policy=3&modestbranding=1&rel=0&autohide=1&playsinline=0&autoplay=0&enablejsapi=1\",\"name\":\"Cucurrucuc\\u00fa Paloma\",\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/i.ytimg.com\\\/vi\\\/HMs8zsMCzeI\\\/hqdefault.jpg\",\"uploadDate\":\"2014-12-23T15:16:18Z\",\"author\":\"Flor de Toloache - Topic\",\"description\":\"Provided to YouTube by TuneCore\\n\\nCucurrucuc\\u00fa Paloma \\u00b7 Mariachi Flor De Toloache\\n\\nMariachi Flor De Toloache\\n\\n\\u2117 2014 Flor De Toloache LLC\\n\\nReleased on: 2014-12-19\\n\\nAuto-generated by YouTube.\"}<\/script><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><em>We got chills. We watched a clip of you singing it online and we got chills. So amazing.<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\nEvery time I think about it I get chills. 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